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Geocentrism, the Flat Earth and Modern Astronomy

Heliocentrism, Geocentrism, the Flat Earth and Modern Astronomy

Websites Featuring Detailed Discussions Of The Bibleʼs “Flat Earth” Passages


Robert J. Schadewaldʼs “Flat earth Bible” articles on the web


Paul Seely, “The Three-Storied Universe”, Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith, No. 21 (March 1969)


The Flat Earth and its Advocates: A List of References
(British flat-earthers flourished at the end of the 1800s and conducted public debates with scientists that the public usually admitted the flat-earthers had “won.” American radio preacher, Voliva of Zion, Illinois, railed against a spherical earth and the damnable errors of modern astronomy as late as the 1920s. And he owned one of the most powerful radio broadcasting towers in the nation at that time. See Robert J. Schadewaldʼs article on Voliva. — E.T.B.)


Did the Early Church Believe in a Flat Earth? (The above website provides a handly list of most of the most important links on the web concerning that question. However, it is agreed upon by all the sources that at least some early church fathers did believe in a flat earth. And of course, those who believed in a spherical earth still believed that the earth did not move and that the “firmament” was solid, and Holy Scripture continued to be cited in support of those latter two assertions for centuries. Origen called the firmament “without doubt firm and solid” (First Homily on Genesis, FC 71). Ambrose, commenting on Genesis 1:6, said, “the specific solidity of this exterior firmament is meant” (Hexameron, FC 42.60). And Saint Augustine said the word firmament was used “to indicate not that it is motionless but that it is solid and that it constitutes an impassible boundary between the waters above and the waters below” (The Literal Meaning of Genesis, ACW 41.1.61).

More importantly, what the church fathers believed is not as important as what the ancients believed and there is plenty of evidence that ancient Near Eastern civilizations believed the earth was flat, based on their writings and carved pictures of the cosmos. The flat earth view was undeniably prominent in both Babylon and Egypt during the time when the Old Testament was written. Even during the intertestamental period, between the Old and New Testaments, Jewish literature like the Book of Enoch, spoke unmistakably of the shape of the earth as flat. The New Testament writers from the Gospels to Rev. also seem to take for granted the flatness of the earth. So whatever the “early church fathers” believed, such a question is not of major importance since they lived in a period that came AFTER the Old Testament, the Intertestamental period, or the New Testament, which were “flat-earth” thinking periods of Biblical composition. — E.T.B.)

Sources that argue that the early church taught that the earth was flat:The Flat Earth: A Detailed Study of Historical Flat-Earth Thinking… and the effort to cover it up (Ethical Atheist)

Scientific Creationism, Geocentricity, and the Flat Earth (Robert J. Schadewald)
The Flat-Earth Bible (Robert J. Schadewald)
The Flat-Earth Belief of Bible Writers (Adrian Swindler)
The Flat Earth and its Advocates: A List of References (Science Reading Room) Sources that argue that only a very small number of church fathers taught that the earth was flat
Who invented the flat Earth? (Answers in Genesis)
Creationism and The Early Church (Robert I Bradshaw)
The Myth of the Flat Earth (Bedeʼs Library)
The Flat Earth Pre-Lab (Oklahoma Baptist University)
Jeffrey Burton Russell, Inventing the Flat Earth: Columbus and Modern Historians. New York: Praeger, 1997. 177 pp. Pbk. ISBN: 027595904X. Christian Response To: The Flat-Earth Bible (Sam Shamoun)
Did Bible writers believe the earth was flat? (Paul S. Taylor)


The Scriptural Basis for a Geocentric Cosmology © 1992-2003 by Glenn Elert

Ancient American Cosmology

Ancient Skywatchers (and Domed Worlds like the Ancient Hebrewsʼ Biblical Cosmos)

Based on an excerpt from National Geographic, March 1990, Ancient Skywatchers
Art and text revised for web by Sharon Mooney

Pre-Columbian Americans left no definitive charts of the universe. Clues are in the iconography, ethnology and archaeology guided the reconstructions. For each of these cultures, the universe was encompassed by the sky, earth and an underworld. Each viewed celestial bodies as living beings that influenced man and could be affected by them. Each held the belief people came from the earth and dwelled in the center of the universe.

Mayan Cosmos

Mayan Cosmos

The universe of the Maya were centered on a tiered pyramid, and rest upon a crocodilian cosmic sea. Each quarter of the earth was associated with color, and the center of the earth was a “fifth direction”. Four sacred beings supported the dome of heaven, illustrated as a two-headed dragon, which had a body as a sky band of celestial symbols. It is arched over the moon goddess, who is holding the rabbit discerned in the moonʼs face, and a skeletal Venus, and the sun god. Pleides, is a star cluster and a rattlesnake tail. Creation of both sun and probably the planet Venus was explained with a legend of Hero twins who vied with the Lords of Death during a series of ball games. The victorious twins became these celestial bodies.

Navajo Cosmos

The Navajo Cosmos was portrayed as a sand painting, the world view of Diné— “the people,” as Navajo referred to themselves, centering on the family hogan. The first hogan was built in the place the ancestors emerged, and traveled through three previous words before arising from a hollow reed into this “glittering” place. The four quarters of the world is characterized with color, holy mountain, time of day, and a sacred person. The rainbow god is a guardian, and the sky sparkles with constellations (the Milky Way) symbolized by a band of crosses. Young warriors carry the blue sun and white moon. Beyond the sky is a land in which the Big Wind (yellow) and Big Thunder rule.

Inca Cosmos

The king of the Inca believed he was the son of the sun, and the cosmos was centered on the Sun Temple at Cuzco, Peru. In one origin myth the Inca people came from three caves; in another myth they arose from Lake Titicaca. The straight red lines are ceques, symbolizing connections to sacred places. The major ceques formed borders of the four-quarted Inca world. The Milky Way blended into the underworld and brought dark, fertile mud to the sky upon its return, which formed patches that resemble animals, like the snake (at top) toad, tinamou bird, mother and baby llama, fox and a second tinamou. The sun is portrayed as a male god, and the moon as a female.

Original paintings by Ken Dallison, Principal Consultants; Original Article by John B. Carlson, Center for Archaeoastronomy (Maya); Trudy Griffen-Pierce, University of Arizona (Navajo); Gary Urton, Colgate University (Inca).